pd052009
02-04 10:58 AM
I hope many people will contribute when the days are close. The sad part is that they do not realize that IV needs to know the collection amount details in advance to organize a mega event.
50 thousand members and only 10 people contributed?
Shameful. If this is the situation, will IV cancel the event?
50 thousand members and only 10 people contributed?
Shameful. If this is the situation, will IV cancel the event?
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bmoni
05-01 11:32 PM
Even if we have five people agree to file this class action lets do it .....
Once we have this law suit filled I'm sure will have the visiblity and whole band wagon will behind us.
1, Let choose an attorney who understands our pain wants to fight for our cause. if its Rajiv Khanna so be it.
2, Whatever the inital attorney consultion let split the consultation fee between five of us.
3, Once we have a stream lined class action in place will gather more people.
what you think ..?
I absolutely agree what you said this will atleast help us to predict where we are with the processing ..If this whole thing is going to take 22 years tell us now..so we won't F****** throw away our life waiting for it.
Lets file a lawsuit to get the info in a manner we need:
1) breakdown of processing dates in a manner that co relates to visa bulletin.
i.e.: tell us how many petitions by per country are pending/processed and processing dates by country and category. Atleast USCIS is answerable to visa bulletin.
2) Visa usage by category reporting each month
(How many petitions were approved are pending by visa category and by country) (here I mean just I140 and I485). Adjust the numbers if there are denials.
This will atleast help everyone predict whats going to happen in recent months. One of the heartburns we have is no information comes out of USCIS and we are held hostage to what oppenheim says or Aytes says or Sheela Murthy says. This is public information so lets try and get it public every month.
Once we have this law suit filled I'm sure will have the visiblity and whole band wagon will behind us.
1, Let choose an attorney who understands our pain wants to fight for our cause. if its Rajiv Khanna so be it.
2, Whatever the inital attorney consultion let split the consultation fee between five of us.
3, Once we have a stream lined class action in place will gather more people.
what you think ..?
I absolutely agree what you said this will atleast help us to predict where we are with the processing ..If this whole thing is going to take 22 years tell us now..so we won't F****** throw away our life waiting for it.
Lets file a lawsuit to get the info in a manner we need:
1) breakdown of processing dates in a manner that co relates to visa bulletin.
i.e.: tell us how many petitions by per country are pending/processed and processing dates by country and category. Atleast USCIS is answerable to visa bulletin.
2) Visa usage by category reporting each month
(How many petitions were approved are pending by visa category and by country) (here I mean just I140 and I485). Adjust the numbers if there are denials.
This will atleast help everyone predict whats going to happen in recent months. One of the heartburns we have is no information comes out of USCIS and we are held hostage to what oppenheim says or Aytes says or Sheela Murthy says. This is public information so lets try and get it public every month.
GCcomesoon
11-06 04:00 PM
Hi
What did the infopass appointment tell you? Were the officers knew what they were talking about?
Thanks.
They said they will send email to TSC & hopefully I should get the FP in next 30 days , if not I should come again which I did. This time they did the same email thing .Actually I went 2nd time to know whether my NC was clear or not. Menwhile I had created 2 SR's by calling USCIS too.
I hope to get the FP in next few days .
Thanks
GCcomesoon
What did the infopass appointment tell you? Were the officers knew what they were talking about?
Thanks.
They said they will send email to TSC & hopefully I should get the FP in next 30 days , if not I should come again which I did. This time they did the same email thing .Actually I went 2nd time to know whether my NC was clear or not. Menwhile I had created 2 SR's by calling USCIS too.
I hope to get the FP in next few days .
Thanks
GCcomesoon
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amitjoey
05-23 07:27 PM
I have sent to my state senators + 10 senators IV identified. I have also sent an email to the ND senator after he voiced his support for our cause on the senate floor today. I now plan to write to all 2008 presidential candidates. Most importantly I am going to write to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, as he has always been a champion of business and immigrant communities.
great, good job caydee.
great, good job caydee.
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GCStatus
09-17 12:36 PM
We are making great progress on this and glad to see tonnes of positive responses. For the people who are viewing this thread first time, please send your name, e-mail, ph number and the amount you are willing to contribute ( in case of a lawsuit ) to man-woman-and-gc who is graciously collecting information for us and adding them in the below spreadsheet. Next steps on the way.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
royus77
07-08 03:08 PM
by the way,
lawsuite and all will never get us to a point where we want. nobody can force
the state department or the USCIS to forcefully accept 700K applications, and then for next 20 years the dates will be struck. specially for people who have been waiting since 2000,2001 and 2002 cannnot be clubed together with people who came in 2006 or 2007, that is going to be fairly injustice and they know that.
I think it will be better to focus our energy on legislative changes or else nothing will get done, no body can push 700K applications down to the throats of USCIS when that have already exausted the quota.
better focus on contacting senators or house members to get some legislative relief.
i dont understand how come the 2000-2001 will be get injustice if USCIS made the dates current . For them to process these new batch atleast it will take 6 months by that time 2000-2001 will be out of BEC and PD rules at that time
lawsuite and all will never get us to a point where we want. nobody can force
the state department or the USCIS to forcefully accept 700K applications, and then for next 20 years the dates will be struck. specially for people who have been waiting since 2000,2001 and 2002 cannnot be clubed together with people who came in 2006 or 2007, that is going to be fairly injustice and they know that.
I think it will be better to focus our energy on legislative changes or else nothing will get done, no body can push 700K applications down to the throats of USCIS when that have already exausted the quota.
better focus on contacting senators or house members to get some legislative relief.
i dont understand how come the 2000-2001 will be get injustice if USCIS made the dates current . For them to process these new batch atleast it will take 6 months by that time 2000-2001 will be out of BEC and PD rules at that time
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mirage
03-08 10:23 PM
While your story is interesting, but I beg to differ again, because, immigration is not something which would be discussed in the Congress for the first time, if we are successfull in bringing something. Each and every single lawmaker in this country understand immigration to the extent that you may not even start to guess...People who oppose us have been putting their restrictive bills again and again so they are going to continue doing that despite of us do something or sleep, do you think Numbersusa wait for us to do something, their anti.... mill will keep churning.
Let me give you a story:
On one of my teams; there was a super star supervisor. He was accused of having inappropriate e-mails.
HR wanted him fired and opened up a big investigation. His manager comes to me and tells me that we have to do everything possible to save him as he is a very key person and irreplaceable.
I went upto HR with my boss to tell them that this particular person could not be fired under any circumstance and that we should let this indiscretion go.
They should be and my boss the e-mails. The e-mails basically were so male chaveunistic and racist. I probably had sent these types of funny jokes in my career and so had my boss and probably so have all of us. We didn't think it was a big deal when taken in context but we had to risk our own credibility and fight with HR to save him. In the process of doing so; we would have lost our credibility with the evidence against him. Even if we fought it; we would have still lost but it would have stained our reputation with HR area by trying to fight for this guy.
Now; senators/congressmen who don't have much knowledge and you present to them why the country quota, etc., should be changed; will be given evidence through their research of what is going on with h-1b, labors in fast procesing states, etc., In this environment where there is sentiment against immigration it will fall on deaf ears and maybe even skew things in the future for you with the politicians because they are getting insight into this stuff at the wrong time.
Take my example of adopting newphew. As I said this isn't the only case; when they start seeing that number of people from India is due to many causes (arranged marriage and adding dependents always from India after they arrive here; staffing companies, h-1b violations, etc, etc.,); the circumstances are not on your side. This is the fourth recession I am living through in this country. In just about each one; immigrants bore a dispropritanate share of blame for the countries ills.
Let me give you a story:
On one of my teams; there was a super star supervisor. He was accused of having inappropriate e-mails.
HR wanted him fired and opened up a big investigation. His manager comes to me and tells me that we have to do everything possible to save him as he is a very key person and irreplaceable.
I went upto HR with my boss to tell them that this particular person could not be fired under any circumstance and that we should let this indiscretion go.
They should be and my boss the e-mails. The e-mails basically were so male chaveunistic and racist. I probably had sent these types of funny jokes in my career and so had my boss and probably so have all of us. We didn't think it was a big deal when taken in context but we had to risk our own credibility and fight with HR to save him. In the process of doing so; we would have lost our credibility with the evidence against him. Even if we fought it; we would have still lost but it would have stained our reputation with HR area by trying to fight for this guy.
Now; senators/congressmen who don't have much knowledge and you present to them why the country quota, etc., should be changed; will be given evidence through their research of what is going on with h-1b, labors in fast procesing states, etc., In this environment where there is sentiment against immigration it will fall on deaf ears and maybe even skew things in the future for you with the politicians because they are getting insight into this stuff at the wrong time.
Take my example of adopting newphew. As I said this isn't the only case; when they start seeing that number of people from India is due to many causes (arranged marriage and adding dependents always from India after they arrive here; staffing companies, h-1b violations, etc, etc.,); the circumstances are not on your side. This is the fourth recession I am living through in this country. In just about each one; immigrants bore a dispropritanate share of blame for the countries ills.
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gcisadawg
03-06 06:22 PM
I find the second proposal very reasonable. If anyone is waiting for more than 5 years, then make that person exempt from country quota.
I'm not saying this because I've already waited five years. It makes sense to flush out oldest PD in the system. This would give people an idea about the wait time.
I'm fine even it is made to say, 6 or 7 years......We just need to know what to expect and how long to wait rather than being subjected to the whims and fancies of politicians and vagaries of the economic boom and bust!
Whether, it is 5,6 or 7 years can be debated but a reasonable time frame would really help.
When the spill over happened based on PD, it was doing exactly that; the oldest applicants ( who were typically EB3 I/C) were flushed out of the system.
When the criteria got changed (fEB category first and then PD), the applicants with oldest PDs were made to wait even longer.
I dont expect a GC before 2010. That would make about 8 years with multiple boom and bust. When the economy is bad, we need to be free to look for other jobs. With the shackle of visa sponsorship, one would easily become a viction of a recession.
I know few of my friend who went back in 2001 - 2002. I was fortunate to survive then....Not sure what is in store now......
-G
I'm not saying this because I've already waited five years. It makes sense to flush out oldest PD in the system. This would give people an idea about the wait time.
I'm fine even it is made to say, 6 or 7 years......We just need to know what to expect and how long to wait rather than being subjected to the whims and fancies of politicians and vagaries of the economic boom and bust!
Whether, it is 5,6 or 7 years can be debated but a reasonable time frame would really help.
When the spill over happened based on PD, it was doing exactly that; the oldest applicants ( who were typically EB3 I/C) were flushed out of the system.
When the criteria got changed (fEB category first and then PD), the applicants with oldest PDs were made to wait even longer.
I dont expect a GC before 2010. That would make about 8 years with multiple boom and bust. When the economy is bad, we need to be free to look for other jobs. With the shackle of visa sponsorship, one would easily become a viction of a recession.
I know few of my friend who went back in 2001 - 2002. I was fortunate to survive then....Not sure what is in store now......
-G
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franklin
06-14 08:07 PM
Still haven't got mine yet. Attorney suggested another 2 more weeks. Doesn't sound like many (if ANY) have got their receipts yet. The only thing I've seen is that people who paid personally have seen their receipt numbers on cashed check images. This doesn't apply to those who didn't pay personally though.
Who are all still waiting for Receipt notices? please share your info
Here are my details
File on June 1 at NSC
I-140 approved by NSC
No Receipt notice
Checks not cashed yet,
Who are all still waiting for Receipt notices? please share your info
Here are my details
File on June 1 at NSC
I-140 approved by NSC
No Receipt notice
Checks not cashed yet,
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paragpujara
08-09 07:44 AM
Yesterday status got updated for me and my wife as below:
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 8, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
Hope I will receive GC soon. Haven't got CPO mails/status yet.
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On August 8, 2008, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I485 APPLICATION TO REGISTER PERMANENT RESIDENCE OR TO ADJUST STATUS. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
Hope I will receive GC soon. Haven't got CPO mails/status yet.
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gk_2000
07-20 04:27 PM
Correct me If I am wrong
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
Could you elaborate on how the money will solve the problem? If we could make a laundry list of action items and cost for each, we could do an extensive email campaign among all our members and convince them to contribute
More people will contribute if and when they get a clear picture of how the money will work for them
And no, I am not making any statement here throwing suspicions and distrust or ill will. This is a suggestion for improving the contributions, which is coming across as a weak area
out of 45K members let's assume 22.5 K are EB2 and 22.5 K are EB3.
Even If 11.25K (EB2)+11.25K (EB3) = 22.5 K (Total) contributes $25 Each Problems gets solved ... but the catch is ....
Even 11.25 K EB2 members are not contributing because they don't have to as their problem is solved
Even 11.25 K EB3 members are not contributing because they are not sure even with this contribution their problems gets solved.
Many people are saying that EB3 members are not contributing that's why you are lagging etc...
EB3 Members who contributed are feeling the pain because even after contribution they are not getting the results and EB2 members who didn't contributed are getting the results...
Could you elaborate on how the money will solve the problem? If we could make a laundry list of action items and cost for each, we could do an extensive email campaign among all our members and convince them to contribute
More people will contribute if and when they get a clear picture of how the money will work for them
And no, I am not making any statement here throwing suspicions and distrust or ill will. This is a suggestion for improving the contributions, which is coming across as a weak area
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senk1s
07-03 05:24 PM
Yes !!
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desi3933
08-24 07:55 AM
You are talking about 2004, 05. What about 2001, 2002 and 2003? There are so many people with 2002 priority dates still waiting just like me. Mine is 02/2002
What a unfair/unethical/inhuman system. I curse everyone who is causing this delay. They will all land up in hell.
>> You are talking about 2004, 05
SunnySurya is taking about 2004, 2005 because his PD is Oct 2005. Its that simple. Just self-interest.
What a unfair/unethical/inhuman system. I curse everyone who is causing this delay. They will all land up in hell.
>> You are talking about 2004, 05
SunnySurya is taking about 2004, 2005 because his PD is Oct 2005. Its that simple. Just self-interest.
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iam4u4ever
09-28 04:27 PM
By Self employment, do you mean working on 1099 or by starting a business and working for it?
by starting a business and working for it ?
thanks
by starting a business and working for it ?
thanks
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krishuscis
07-09 08:55 PM
my 2cents suggestion...
1) Can we advertise about this rally in our grocery shops....
2) Can we bring our family memembers also.......
1) Can we advertise about this rally in our grocery shops....
2) Can we bring our family memembers also.......
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SGP
09-27 09:45 AM
saw an interesting video on youtube the other day. The first thing that came to mind was the eb2-eb3 fights. If only we can fight together rather than each other ! ;)
youtube - every indian must see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4ultkrjsw) exellent one. United we stand divided we fall. The british too took advantage of our non-unity. Let's learn a lesson from our history.:)
youtube - every indian must see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4ultkrjsw) exellent one. United we stand divided we fall. The british too took advantage of our non-unity. Let's learn a lesson from our history.:)
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MeraNaamJoker
08-27 04:25 PM
GC comes with a 'sleeve' to keep the card safely. The pouch in the sleeve have special silver lining to prevent 'de-magnetisation' over the period. Please, take due care as its not easy to get replacement.
I was advised so, at SSA. As I was about to put the card in my wallet (Ya, I went to SSA to update my ssn) gentleman at the window interrupted me. I thought I should share this small tip with IVian fella.
Good luck to everyone !!
Thanks buddy,
What is the procedure to the SSA update?
My family do not have SSA? I need to apply for them as well.
I was advised so, at SSA. As I was about to put the card in my wallet (Ya, I went to SSA to update my ssn) gentleman at the window interrupted me. I thought I should share this small tip with IVian fella.
Good luck to everyone !!
Thanks buddy,
What is the procedure to the SSA update?
My family do not have SSA? I need to apply for them as well.
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LostInGCProcess
08-29 11:06 AM
yeah.. even ND is not being followed... and why give a PD when they have to follow ND anyways ? So wait for 5 years in queue and then due to USCIS lottery system my application gets assigned a later ND... i have to suffer ??? WOW ... that's nice.... that's what's called INJUSTICE...
Totally agree with you. Its so unfair for people who are waiting for a loooooog time. And suddenly find themselves as being left out.
We came to know only few of the once who have posted in other forums that they got GC with PD as fresh as Jan2007, and they posted it in the forum because they were afraid if their GCs would ever be reverted....
So, I think there are probably a lot more out there who might have got the GC and are keeping it quite, so that they don't stir up the folks who are waiting so patiently (which of course is weaning thin by the day!!).
Totally unfair, unjustified.
Maybe we should..........
1) Send letters to USCIS, highlighting the plight of those waiting patiently and folks who joined recently got the GC. Send anonymous letters if you fear of being put under the scanner.
2) All the IT folks who are here in the US are probably in the higher 10% bracket. Maybe we all should collectively hire a lobby group in Washington. That's the only solution, it works well.
Thats all I can think of right now....
Totally agree with you. Its so unfair for people who are waiting for a loooooog time. And suddenly find themselves as being left out.
We came to know only few of the once who have posted in other forums that they got GC with PD as fresh as Jan2007, and they posted it in the forum because they were afraid if their GCs would ever be reverted....
So, I think there are probably a lot more out there who might have got the GC and are keeping it quite, so that they don't stir up the folks who are waiting so patiently (which of course is weaning thin by the day!!).
Totally unfair, unjustified.
Maybe we should..........
1) Send letters to USCIS, highlighting the plight of those waiting patiently and folks who joined recently got the GC. Send anonymous letters if you fear of being put under the scanner.
2) All the IT folks who are here in the US are probably in the higher 10% bracket. Maybe we all should collectively hire a lobby group in Washington. That's the only solution, it works well.
Thats all I can think of right now....
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amsgc
07-04 11:23 PM
Are you sure about that...never heard of I140 portability. If it were true...why would there be such a big ho ha about AC-21.
Iam a novice at this, and am by no means contradicting your point...just skeptical..
To be more accurate, it is not porting I-140, it is retaining your old priority date, and using it with your new I-140 petition.
When you move, your new company will have to start the GC process from the begining - Labor, I-140. It is just that when they file your new I-140, you will have to provide a copy of your old one and request to keep the old priority date.
I think there are some requirements to get this right - one of them being your job classification should be the same. There is a thread on this subject somewhere on this forum, you can dig it out and ask questions there.
Iam a novice at this, and am by no means contradicting your point...just skeptical..
To be more accurate, it is not porting I-140, it is retaining your old priority date, and using it with your new I-140 petition.
When you move, your new company will have to start the GC process from the begining - Labor, I-140. It is just that when they file your new I-140, you will have to provide a copy of your old one and request to keep the old priority date.
I think there are some requirements to get this right - one of them being your job classification should be the same. There is a thread on this subject somewhere on this forum, you can dig it out and ask questions there.
amitjoey
11-17 03:47 PM
Some of us have established contacts with our local congressional office staff and built a rapport. Should we send those contacts an email with this text?
diptam
06-26 04:03 PM
I have to get the EMP LETTER latest by Friday June 29th from employer.
For that i have to sign the agreement by June 28th Noon time.
Today is June 26th and they are still working on agreement with their lawyers and would probably give me the final agreement tomorrow 27th noon time.
Between 27th Noon and 28th Noon how can i consult a lawyer ??
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
For that i have to sign the agreement by June 28th Noon time.
Today is June 26th and they are still working on agreement with their lawyers and would probably give me the final agreement tomorrow 27th noon time.
Between 27th Noon and 28th Noon how can i consult a lawyer ??
I meant "whole sentence from the employment agreement". All depends on the wordings. If your agreement is linked to I-485 approval date then there is a way out. Every contract must have well defined terms. Since date for I-485 approval is not known, such contracts are difficult to stand in court of law. However, if it says "the employee must work for 2 years or 6-months after I-485 approval date (whichever is earlier) otherwise he/she will pay all GC related expenses" then the contract is more likely to be enforceable.
All depends on the wordings of the contract.
Please consult a good lawyer BEFORE signing any contract.
Not a legal advice.
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Green Card holder since May 2002
desi3933 at gmail.com
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